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Oral History Interview with Jeffrey Margenau and Peter Duncan, April 7, 2007

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00:00:00 - Introduction, their origins, Duncan’s education, Margenau’s military service, and their careers 00:03:00 - Margenau proposing to Duncan, and getting married in Canada 00:06:35 - Meeting at the Galano Club support group and beginning to date 00:07:28 - Contemplating becoming parents or foster parents 00:09:50 - Interpreting Referendum 1 as a reversal of Wisconsin’s progressive tradition 00:13:21 - Attributing support for Referendum 1 to religion and fear of the unknown, and questioning the “sanctity of marriage” concept 00:16:39 - Distinguishing between church marriages and civil unions, and Margenau using his contributions to the state, including military service and taxes, to justify marriage equality 00:18:55 - Working with a lawyer to share their powers of attorney and their estate after the passage of Referendum 1 00:20:21 - Margenau positioning marriage equality as an aspect of equal citizenship, and reiterating his contributions to Wisconsin 00:21:36 - Opinions on the motivations behind support for Referendum 1, including politics and beliefs that marriage equality diminishes the sacredness of marriage 00:25:17 - Having a stateside reception after their wedding in Canada, and the diversity of attendees 00:28:57 - Conducting weekly “check-ins” with close friends who support their marriage, and enjoying the support of their neighbors 00:32:27 - Building positive relationships with their extended families, especially with their nephews 00:34:47 - Vacationing abroad and travelling to Minnesota for an annual family fishing trip 00:38:45 - Taking a year off from their relationship, and working to make their relationship positive and transparent 00:45:58 - Preserving their relationship with humor and unselfishness 00:50:45 - Structuring their finances, scheduling social events in advance, and writing a long-term plan for major expenditures 00:58:37 - Anticipating court challenges against laws like Referendum 1 and predicting more social acceptance of LGBT people 01:03:41 - Denouncing the military’s “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy 01:05:42 - Incidental conversation about antiques, and conclusion of interview